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	<title>Comments on: Memoir &#8217;44 &#8211; Operation Overlord and Battle Map expansions</title>
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		<title>By: Matteo</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>Matteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very disappointed too for the same reasons.

People, you can live without spending 20+ euros everytime there is
a new expension with a few pieces of paper and plastics...

I proudly own memoir&#039;44 and share Battlelore with my friends.... though we played a hundred games there are more than half of the scenarios still to play.

If you buy this expansion, the next ones will be worse.

Dow, I enjoy myself sharing time with my friends playing meoir and battlelore but I&#039;m not going to waste my money for poor expansion....

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINKS THE SAME THINGS
IF YOU CONTINUE TO SELL OVERPRICED EXPANSION PEOPLE WILL 
TRUST YOU NO MORE YOU AND WILL NOT BUY EVERYTHING.

For instance , instead of buying an unuseful CAMPAIGN BUG (40 euros) I buy FANTASY FLIGHT BRITANNIA(40 euros) .. i.e. an old but  WHOLE and EXCEPTIONAL new  game that was worth the money.

Now I have seen that horrible overlord expansion and the paper maps:
I and my friend Nicola own two memoir&#039;44 base boxes and other expansion.... the operational overlord expansion is unuseful for us....
but we will gladly buy a new set of dice (they wear off playing much) and
 two set of overlord cards (every time after playing we have to separate our cards)...but 20 euros are too much... with that money we could buy an half new game.

About the overlord paper maps... we like overlord scenarios but they are 
really few... having two base sets, two pacific expansions, a terrain pack, 
two air packs, an eastern front expansion and a winter/ desert board
and a lot of other things I want other OVERLORD SCENARIOS FOR FREE
not spending every time 16 euros for just one map....

There are also a lot of unuseful thing in what I bought...Cavalry, rope bridges, Carriers, Chindits that are not used in scenarios.

The awesome Sinipers rules (Stalingrad red barricades is a wonderful scenario, I won it 10-9 after two hours) are used in only one scenario.

I want  new scenarios using  what I already have...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very disappointed too for the same reasons.</p>
<p>People, you can live without spending 20+ euros everytime there is<br />
a new expension with a few pieces of paper and plastics&#8230;</p>
<p>I proudly own memoir&#8217;44 and share Battlelore with my friends&#8230;. though we played a hundred games there are more than half of the scenarios still to play.</p>
<p>If you buy this expansion, the next ones will be worse.</p>
<p>Dow, I enjoy myself sharing time with my friends playing meoir and battlelore but I&#8217;m not going to waste my money for poor expansion&#8230;.</p>
<p>A LOT OF PEOPLE THINKS THE SAME THINGS<br />
IF YOU CONTINUE TO SELL OVERPRICED EXPANSION PEOPLE WILL<br />
TRUST YOU NO MORE YOU AND WILL NOT BUY EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>For instance , instead of buying an unuseful CAMPAIGN BUG (40 euros) I buy FANTASY FLIGHT BRITANNIA(40 euros) .. i.e. an old but  WHOLE and EXCEPTIONAL new  game that was worth the money.</p>
<p>Now I have seen that horrible overlord expansion and the paper maps:<br />
I and my friend Nicola own two memoir&#8217;44 base boxes and other expansion&#8230;. the operational overlord expansion is unuseful for us&#8230;.<br />
but we will gladly buy a new set of dice (they wear off playing much) and<br />
 two set of overlord cards (every time after playing we have to separate our cards)&#8230;but 20 euros are too much&#8230; with that money we could buy an half new game.</p>
<p>About the overlord paper maps&#8230; we like overlord scenarios but they are<br />
really few&#8230; having two base sets, two pacific expansions, a terrain pack,<br />
two air packs, an eastern front expansion and a winter/ desert board<br />
and a lot of other things I want other OVERLORD SCENARIOS FOR FREE<br />
not spending every time 16 euros for just one map&#8230;.</p>
<p>There are also a lot of unuseful thing in what I bought&#8230;Cavalry, rope bridges, Carriers, Chindits that are not used in scenarios.</p>
<p>The awesome Sinipers rules (Stalingrad red barricades is a wonderful scenario, I won it 10-9 after two hours) are used in only one scenario.</p>
<p>I want  new scenarios using  what I already have&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3602</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No big deal, I just won&#039;t be purchasing these items. It seems that these products will have very narrow appeal.  I&#039;ll just save my money for the British exp (hopefully it will come out this year).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No big deal, I just won&#8217;t be purchasing these items. It seems that these products will have very narrow appeal.  I&#8217;ll just save my money for the British exp (hopefully it will come out this year).</p>
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		<title>By: Taronstar</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3600</link>
		<dc:creator>Taronstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I am at Gencon and holding an Overlord box in my hand, the Overlord expansion is keyed to work with the new map packs that are coming out.  The map packs come pre-printed (no extra terrain needed) and this way you can choose which scenarios you want.

Now yes, if you want to play the original Overlord scenarios or make your own, the Overlord expansion does not remove the need for a second board.  However, they have a lineup of scenarios and map packs on the way, and if you want to play those it is cheaper to buy the Expansion and then just pick out which maps you want then buy a second copy of the game.

The Overlord box is not the &quot;be-all end-all&quot; for Overlord, think of it more as the key that gives people the option to play Breakthrough and Map Packs without buying the second copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I am at Gencon and holding an Overlord box in my hand, the Overlord expansion is keyed to work with the new map packs that are coming out.  The map packs come pre-printed (no extra terrain needed) and this way you can choose which scenarios you want.</p>
<p>Now yes, if you want to play the original Overlord scenarios or make your own, the Overlord expansion does not remove the need for a second board.  However, they have a lineup of scenarios and map packs on the way, and if you want to play those it is cheaper to buy the Expansion and then just pick out which maps you want then buy a second copy of the game.</p>
<p>The Overlord box is not the &#8220;be-all end-all&#8221; for Overlord, think of it more as the key that gives people the option to play Breakthrough and Map Packs without buying the second copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Caboose</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3599</link>
		<dc:creator>Caboose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like others, I&#039;m kinda confused, since other than the rulebook and the 2 different card decks, it would seem that a board would be in order as well.

Also it would be nice to know if the rulebook is like the AirPack rulebook and it has scenarios in it as well.    It is very hard to tell based on the description in the store.

Likewise confused with the extra dice - since we do have quite a bit of dice already (unless these dice are better quality than the originals ??), it seems a tad odd as well.  Hopefully we&#039;ll get some discussion going on what DoW plans since like others, it just seems like a half done deal in my opinion w/o some sort of board to go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like others, I&#8217;m kinda confused, since other than the rulebook and the 2 different card decks, it would seem that a board would be in order as well.</p>
<p>Also it would be nice to know if the rulebook is like the AirPack rulebook and it has scenarios in it as well.    It is very hard to tell based on the description in the store.</p>
<p>Likewise confused with the extra dice &#8211; since we do have quite a bit of dice already (unless these dice are better quality than the originals ??), it seems a tad odd as well.  Hopefully we&#8217;ll get some discussion going on what DoW plans since like others, it just seems like a half done deal in my opinion w/o some sort of board to go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3598</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were being run by maerketing they would be doing a better job of listening to their customers.  They seem to be more in the build it and they will come mentality of late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were being run by maerketing they would be doing a better job of listening to their customers.  They seem to be more in the build it and they will come mentality of late.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewN</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the marketing people have taken over from the game designers.

Reasons I&#039;ve bought Days of Wonder games in the past:
1) Great components.
2) A commitment to interesting expandable content.

Reasons to stop buying Days of Wonder games?
1) Expansions that seem to be placed out there merely for the purpose of taking more of my money.
2) A worrying decrease in quality of components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the marketing people have taken over from the game designers.</p>
<p>Reasons I&#8217;ve bought Days of Wonder games in the past:<br />
1) Great components.<br />
2) A commitment to interesting expandable content.</p>
<p>Reasons to stop buying Days of Wonder games?<br />
1) Expansions that seem to be placed out there merely for the purpose of taking more of my money.<br />
2) A worrying decrease in quality of components.</p>
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		<title>By: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t figure out who the first expansion is for, the second is obviously for people who own two sets.  If you have one set and buy the first expansion you still can not play any Overlord scenarios, if you have two sets why would you buy it?

DoW what the heck are you thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out who the first expansion is for, the second is obviously for people who own two sets.  If you have one set and buy the first expansion you still can not play any Overlord scenarios, if you have two sets why would you buy it?</p>
<p>DoW what the heck are you thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: ColtsFan76</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>ColtsFan76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn,

The point must be for you to buy a 2nd set.  Here is the statement in the rules:

&quot;If you own a single copy of Memoir &#039;44 ...All of the scenarios published in our Memoir &#039;44 Battle Map series contain ready-to-play pre-printed battle maps...&quot;

So here are your options.  You can spend 420 to get the Overlord Expansion which gives you the needed dice and cardboard tokens.  You then need to spend $18 a battle map to be able to play two scenarios.  If you stop there, you have spent $38 to cobble together a &quot;poor man&#039;s version of Voerlord (there words, not mine).

Or, you can go to any decent online store and pay $34 for the real thing.  You will then have real plastic figures, real terrain, real boards, your own set of dice, and a free supply of scenarios you can play over and over again.

So this whole thing turned out to be a &quot;buy a 2nd copy promotion.&quot;  Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn,</p>
<p>The point must be for you to buy a 2nd set.  Here is the statement in the rules:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you own a single copy of Memoir &#8217;44 &#8230;All of the scenarios published in our Memoir &#8217;44 Battle Map series contain ready-to-play pre-printed battle maps&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So here are your options.  You can spend 420 to get the Overlord Expansion which gives you the needed dice and cardboard tokens.  You then need to spend $18 a battle map to be able to play two scenarios.  If you stop there, you have spent $38 to cobble together a &#8220;poor man&#8217;s version of Voerlord (there words, not mine).</p>
<p>Or, you can go to any decent online store and pay $34 for the real thing.  You will then have real plastic figures, real terrain, real boards, your own set of dice, and a free supply of scenarios you can play over and over again.</p>
<p>So this whole thing turned out to be a &#8220;buy a 2nd copy promotion.&#8221;  Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Kehoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/08/11/memoir-44-operation-overlord-and-battle-map-expansions/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Kehoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I must echo the perplexed responses in this thread. I haven&#039;t played a Memoir Overlord game because the price tag of buying a second base game seemed excessive. I was quite pleased when I saw a cheaper, dedicated Overlord expansion was in the works.

But seriously ... no map? What&#039;s the point of an Overlord expansion if I don&#039;t have the components to assemble an Overlord board? I&#039;m really not seeing the goal here.

Clearly we don&#039;t have all the details yet, and maybe the new Overlord rules address this issue. Right now though, it looks mighty confusing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I must echo the perplexed responses in this thread. I haven&#8217;t played a Memoir Overlord game because the price tag of buying a second base game seemed excessive. I was quite pleased when I saw a cheaper, dedicated Overlord expansion was in the works.</p>
<p>But seriously &#8230; no map? What&#8217;s the point of an Overlord expansion if I don&#8217;t have the components to assemble an Overlord board? I&#8217;m really not seeing the goal here.</p>
<p>Clearly we don&#8217;t have all the details yet, and maybe the new Overlord rules address this issue. Right now though, it looks mighty confusing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: MWAlbion</title>
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		<dc:creator>MWAlbion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bruce

Reprints are due Sept 08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bruce</p>
<p>Reprints are due Sept 08.</p>
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