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	<title>Comments on: Two new adventures and embarrassing mistakes</title>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there will be an item on the contact form. we can&#039;t do like the dice replacement because there is no serial # indeed. More info will follow on this and the cards&#039; back once we come back from Gencon, the week after next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there will be an item on the contact form. we can&#8217;t do like the dice replacement because there is no serial # indeed. More info will follow on this and the cards&#8217; back once we come back from Gencon, the week after next.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jude: Either it will be like the dice replacement program, where you click a link to request and its all automatic, or you&#039;ll have to use the contact form to request it.

I&#039;m thinking its the contact form since I dont think there&#039;s a registration # on the expansions, only the base game.

Here&#039;s the link to the &quot;Your Days of Wonder game had missing or damaged pieces when you opened it&quot; form:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/contact/sublevel/?entry_id=12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jude: Either it will be like the dice replacement program, where you click a link to request and its all automatic, or you&#8217;ll have to use the contact form to request it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking its the contact form since I dont think there&#8217;s a registration # on the expansions, only the base game.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to the &#8220;Your Days of Wonder game had missing or damaged pieces when you opened it&#8221; form:<br />
<a href="http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/contact/sublevel/?entry_id=12" rel="nofollow">http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/contact/sublevel/?entry_id=12</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jude</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought the Goblin Skirmishers and Dwarven Battalion expansions and they look pretty cool.  I&#039;m hoping to play this week-end.

I would have liked 3 extra Goblin drummers so that I could use both the Band and Drummers specialist cards at the same time, though.

I usually use the Ultra-Pro thin, clear card sleeves (2 5/8 x 3 5/8) for most games.  They work okay for the Battlelore decks except for being a bit wide.  I&#039;m hoping that I can get solid-backed ones that will also fit.

***My question is, since I plan to get the new expansions as soon as my game store has them, to where exactly do I write to get the replacement banners?

Jude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought the Goblin Skirmishers and Dwarven Battalion expansions and they look pretty cool.  I&#8217;m hoping to play this week-end.</p>
<p>I would have liked 3 extra Goblin drummers so that I could use both the Band and Drummers specialist cards at the same time, though.</p>
<p>I usually use the Ultra-Pro thin, clear card sleeves (2 5/8 x 3 5/8) for most games.  They work okay for the Battlelore decks except for being a bit wide.  I&#8217;m hoping that I can get solid-backed ones that will also fit.</p>
<p>***My question is, since I plan to get the new expansions as soon as my game store has them, to where exactly do I write to get the replacement banners?</p>
<p>Jude</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, People promising to never buy BattleLore from now on unless DoW does something they are demanding doesn&#039;t sound like people who are just wanting &quot;battlelore to be successful&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, People promising to never buy BattleLore from now on unless DoW does something they are demanding doesn&#8217;t sound like people who are just wanting &#8220;battlelore to be successful&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Archer</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason people haven&#039;t been commenting on he banners is because DOW has already offered to mail people the correct ones once they&#039;re available.

Also, to put Will&#039;s other concern to rest, I don&#039;t think anyone has posted anything here that would upset DOW so much that they would suddenly stop keeping their customers informed.  It sounds like these posts are coming from people who care about BattleLore and want it to be successful.  We&#039;re just having a discussion.  That&#039;s what this blog is for, afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason people haven&#8217;t been commenting on he banners is because DOW has already offered to mail people the correct ones once they&#8217;re available.</p>
<p>Also, to put Will&#8217;s other concern to rest, I don&#8217;t think anyone has posted anything here that would upset DOW so much that they would suddenly stop keeping their customers informed.  It sounds like these posts are coming from people who care about BattleLore and want it to be successful.  We&#8217;re just having a discussion.  That&#8217;s what this blog is for, afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phoenixio:
Yeah, only 2 out of 26 comments have mentioned the word &quot;banner.&quot;

Apparently they dont care if potentially a player in the game has a game unbalancing blue mounted bow (they say ostrich riders should be GREEN mounted bow only!), instead of a normal mounted long sword weapon.

Unbalanced gameplay is apparently not as important as a cosmetic blemish that shouldn&#039;t even affect your game if you play according to the rules!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phoenixio:<br />
Yeah, only 2 out of 26 comments have mentioned the word &#8220;banner.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently they dont care if potentially a player in the game has a game unbalancing blue mounted bow (they say ostrich riders should be GREEN mounted bow only!), instead of a normal mounted long sword weapon.</p>
<p>Unbalanced gameplay is apparently not as important as a cosmetic blemish that shouldn&#8217;t even affect your game if you play according to the rules!</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenixio</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenixio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Will about most of these things.  But I also think that DoW did well by openly saying it, for they look like they really care for their customers.

Let&#039;s also take note that the back of the card might seem only usefull for those who play a hazard-full variant, but they also allow people like me to distinguish from behind the different kinds of cards.  I mean, when I finish a game, I just throw all my cards in one pile, and it&#039;s pretty easier to reform the usual piles (Deployment, Lore, Command, etc) by looking on the back of the cards.  Might be a little detail, but...

And also take note that of the two mistakes, most people here think that the esthethic one is the worst, then the banners...  Gamers are picky about what their games look like it seems. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Will about most of these things.  But I also think that DoW did well by openly saying it, for they look like they really care for their customers.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also take note that the back of the card might seem only usefull for those who play a hazard-full variant, but they also allow people like me to distinguish from behind the different kinds of cards.  I mean, when I finish a game, I just throw all my cards in one pile, and it&#8217;s pretty easier to reform the usual piles (Deployment, Lore, Command, etc) by looking on the back of the cards.  Might be a little detail, but&#8230;</p>
<p>And also take note that of the two mistakes, most people here think that the esthethic one is the worst, then the banners&#8230;  Gamers are picky about what their games look like it seems. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like DoW shoulda just kept quiet about it, or said that they always intended it that way.

You guys are essentially saying &quot;OMG I won&#039;t buy anything more until they fix this cosmetic differance that won&#039;t affect me if I play by the rules.&quot;

If DoW had said something along the lines of &quot;We have designed differant backs so you can tell CtA specialist cards from other add-ons, because according to the rules, you choose the ones you like. However, if someone wants to play an UNOFFICIAL variant of random specialist draws, you can ____ &quot;

Then would you guys have complained?

All you guys are doing is pushing and encouraging DoW to hide similar issues next time, or be less open and informative on the blogs. If they called this a &quot;Feature&quot; instead of a &quot;misprint,&quot; would you have complained? Sounds like the word &quot;misprint&quot; is offensive to some of you. Or if they had just kept quiet about it, and replied in the forum that they intentially changed the card backs, would you have complained?
I have no doubt this is why they don&#039;t publish more information about upcoming products or dates, because everyone would complain if they DARED have a delay! Even if the delay was caused by a supplier that was entirely out of thier control.


____ could be something like, purchase a replacement set of cards for just a nominal shipping charge


Darren Archer: I doubt the designer, Richard Borg, had much to do with the artwork on the back of the specialist cards. I also doubt he cares all that much if its the one way or the other way. Most likely they had an artist work up some sketches and he said yeah that looks fine, and then the artist worked the sketch up into the final artwork. In fact, its quite possible he wasn&#039;t involved with the card back art on the specialist cards at all. I imagine he&#039;s very busy playtesting this stuff and designing new scenarios, so its just as likely other people at DoW handle most of the artwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like DoW shoulda just kept quiet about it, or said that they always intended it that way.</p>
<p>You guys are essentially saying &#8220;OMG I won&#8217;t buy anything more until they fix this cosmetic differance that won&#8217;t affect me if I play by the rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>If DoW had said something along the lines of &#8220;We have designed differant backs so you can tell CtA specialist cards from other add-ons, because according to the rules, you choose the ones you like. However, if someone wants to play an UNOFFICIAL variant of random specialist draws, you can ____ &#8221;</p>
<p>Then would you guys have complained?</p>
<p>All you guys are doing is pushing and encouraging DoW to hide similar issues next time, or be less open and informative on the blogs. If they called this a &#8220;Feature&#8221; instead of a &#8220;misprint,&#8221; would you have complained? Sounds like the word &#8220;misprint&#8221; is offensive to some of you. Or if they had just kept quiet about it, and replied in the forum that they intentially changed the card backs, would you have complained?<br />
I have no doubt this is why they don&#8217;t publish more information about upcoming products or dates, because everyone would complain if they DARED have a delay! Even if the delay was caused by a supplier that was entirely out of thier control.</p>
<p>____ could be something like, purchase a replacement set of cards for just a nominal shipping charge</p>
<p>Darren Archer: I doubt the designer, Richard Borg, had much to do with the artwork on the back of the specialist cards. I also doubt he cares all that much if its the one way or the other way. Most likely they had an artist work up some sketches and he said yeah that looks fine, and then the artist worked the sketch up into the final artwork. In fact, its quite possible he wasn&#8217;t involved with the card back art on the specialist cards at all. I imagine he&#8217;s very busy playtesting this stuff and designing new scenarios, so its just as likely other people at DoW handle most of the artwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenixio</title>
		<link>http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and-embarrassing-mistakes/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenixio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this kind of mistake shouldn&#039;t make people regret their purchase of products, nor stop them from enjoying Battlelore.  DoW will surely find a way to correct the problem, and I personnaly hope it will NOT be card protectors.  Like a few people here, I will wait and see if the problem is solved soon, nut will not hesitate to purchase the products anyway.

It is understandable that most people want a perfect product, and I doubt DoW will let the thing like they are now.  And if they wanted the Specialist card to be different from the deployment ones, there should be a reason.

Just give them some time for them to see what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this kind of mistake shouldn&#8217;t make people regret their purchase of products, nor stop them from enjoying Battlelore.  DoW will surely find a way to correct the problem, and I personnaly hope it will NOT be card protectors.  Like a few people here, I will wait and see if the problem is solved soon, nut will not hesitate to purchase the products anyway.</p>
<p>It is understandable that most people want a perfect product, and I doubt DoW will let the thing like they are now.  And if they wanted the Specialist card to be different from the deployment ones, there should be a reason.</p>
<p>Just give them some time for them to see what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard the saying from computer science &quot;If you find a bug, document it and call it a feature.&quot;

The cards aren&#039;t a bug, they&#039;re a feature.  This allows them to be easily separated into separate decks.

I&#039;m glad that DoW thought of this!  Nice touch!

Seriously, though, my enjoyment of BL will not be diminished one iota by this &quot;error.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard the saying from computer science &#8220;If you find a bug, document it and call it a feature.&#8221;</p>
<p>The cards aren&#8217;t a bug, they&#8217;re a feature.  This allows them to be easily separated into separate decks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that DoW thought of this!  Nice touch!</p>
<p>Seriously, though, my enjoyment of BL will not be diminished one iota by this &#8220;error.&#8221;</p>
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